at the white house jay carney was asked whether the president's going to stick to his $250,000 a year threshold for tax increases. carney kind of wiggled around that question, didn't pin himself down. gives you the sense bill and maria we are talking about a negotiation that is moving hot and heavy here behind the scenes. we'll have to wait for further developments from here on out. >> we'll be watching that. thank you very much. now lee munnson, gordon cherlop, anne rick santelli. let me kick off with you. as a guy who's got to put money to work, what's your take on the latest maneuverings out of washington? does this make you more bullish? >> well, it does, but i'm really shocked. if i were a politician right now red or blue, i would not be doing anything other than saying we're not going to work it out until after christmas. this puts a shower on my parade.